When you're asked to make rings in a certain size, it's a good idea to measure twice and cut once. These 2 simple rings took acouple hours to do but I spent a lot of that time working on a 3rd ring for the series which in the end I decided would have to go into the scrap pile to use another time. Either that or I'll wear it myself anyway. These are for my sons' girlfriend who's having a birthday in afew days. Hope she likes them.